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Geoff Neal from thefacts.nz - Is New Zealand in the midst of a colour revolution part 1

  • elocal magazine By elocal magazine
  • Feb 10, 2025

Watch MJ interview Geoff Neal about his recent public submission about the Treaty Principals Bill based on information he has collated using his organisation thefacts.nz which analyses facts and data from all New Zealand datasets and presents them as they are, something the mainstream media tends to gloss over.

MJ: Hi everyone, welcome back to an elocal special. Today we've got Geoff Neal, from thefact.nz and we're talking about today select committee submissions. Do you think that New Zealand is actually going under, going through a color revolution like it's happened many, many other countries around the world?


GN: Thanks, so yes, let's just talk about this selection process. So what I'm going to show you mostly today is my treaty principles bill submission and there's actually eight submissions so I've got a summary slide deck.
And you're quite right that these submissions, they used to be kind of hidden. It was, you know, passionate citizens like myself and in other organizations and MPs. But what's happened lately is a lot of people have started bringing this to the surface. And I had previous multi ward and also general election submissions that were put on YouTube and got over a hundred thousand views.
So that sort of raised my profile and I started to get contacts from all over the country and a lot more of these submissions have risen to the surface. So now when you give these public submissions, they're not just hidden anymore, they could be in, you know, blowing up. So I'm going to take you through one of them and, and you only get 10 minutes as an organization, you get five minutes as an individual.
But because I put these through the facts, I get 10 minutes. Now that's not a lot of time. When you spend years of research and get hundreds of data points, it's hard to get them all across in 10 minutes, especially if you want to leave time for questions. And I actually didn't leave time for questions in my last one.

We cover things that frustratingly, the mainstream media just won't touch legacy media and it's hidden from sight and some of the stuff is really obvious, it's right in your face. Yet it's still so hard to get the big media banners to cover these insights on what millions of Kiwis are really thinking.

Only 13% of Kiwis trust English media on the treaty to provide accurate information that, you know, what's that? One. One in seven, One in eight? Yeah, yeah. Well, trust is the big issue, isn't it? Moving forward?
I broke it down into eight areas and you just jump in, mj, if you want to ask me about any of them. But this will provide some structure for what I'm going to show you today. Great. The first thing is we need to talk about social unity is because there's no point really talking about if we're a dysfunctional society that's so divided and fighting with each other, you know, that's the place to start.
Next is I looked at, right, who do we trust to talk, you know, to give us information about the treaty? Next I looked at the treaty principles bill polling. I looked into some other polling. The Casey leader got a lot of media attention. You'll be fascinated by what I'm going to present there today.

And that flows on to media bias is how a lot of this information is presented. We're talking about, you know, the treaty is all about race, ethnicity. So I dived into what that data is and you'll be shocked to find out what I found out. And then finally, representation versus referendum.
This is a bill to ask a referendum of the people. Let them have their say. So are politicians representing us? Or if they're not, then how do we get more referendums to force their hand?
We all want unity and prosperity for all of New Zealand. If you don't want those things, I mean, what do you want? I mean, these are just basic dreams that we have for ourselves, our children and society.


GN:
Now the, the fascinating thing is that there's a lot of people have said oh you know, this bill is dividing the country but actually the division happened long before now the best data we have and it's not because of this bill, the division we had.

If you look back here, the best polling is from Essential Guardian back around the election. This happened one month, September before the general election. So Guardians are very left leaning media outlet. No one's going to accuse them of being biased towards the right but they found that 77%, said then we'd become more divided and only 3 said we become less divided.
Racial tensions are less than they were under labor and there's a lot of other bias in the way they presented that, so I won't go into that but if anyone's really curious they can search the submissions that I put through and I've got full information about why we can use some polls and not others.
There's another great poll that was done a year earlier. So this is in 2022, end of 2022. So a year before the election and it said in the last few years do you think New Zealand as a society has become more united, divided.

It showed that two thirds of New Zealand thought we became/ have become more divided everyone apart from the 18 to 24 year old age group but two thirds on average. So we've got a very consistent series of data sets here that are all marrying each other and again it's hard to accuse you know that the Guardian an essential of being you know, biased to the right.
What's remarkable is that if you look at the curia polling and they measure every month the issues that we care about most Maori slash treaty issues, they've just called it Maori here but they ask it as Maori treaty is now the number four issue in terms of the major voting issues.

It's only just behind health. We know how much health gets talked about and look at that. Maori /Treaty is right behind it. It is ahead of the environment, education, law and order which is crime which is remarkable and we need to get it resolved. We do. When, when we really do because the country can't move forward. We, yeah, we're really stuck. It's killing our productivity. All this waste, time, money and energy going into these fights.....

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